Why people do this?

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Re: Why people do this?

Post by WarIock » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:15 am

e1a00000 wrote:12 hours of total online time. If you stay online (cannot be searched or retraced) for more than 12 hours a day reset at midnight server time, you can be hijacked like the current 3 hours limit.
Sounds good and easier to do than my earlier suggestion. I agree that 12 hours is too long to wait on someone. Maybe 6 hours and reset every 12 hours would be better...

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Re: Why people do this?

Post by Sibernetika » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:06 am

Wow it sounds like you guys a try to get people not to play this game.. How about still 3 hours protection but a 1 hour cool down, and the moment you get hacked once your cool down period is over and you have 3 hour safety net again
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Re: Why people do this?

Post by WarIock » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:40 am

Sibernetika wrote:Wow it sounds like you guys a try to get people not to play this game.. How about still 3 hours protection but a 1 hour cool down, and the moment you get hacked once your cool down period is over and you have 3 hour safety net again
We are just trying to come up with a system that cannot be exploited but is not too restricting. Your suggestion can be abused by using 2 accounts to give each other a safety net every time it expires.

I think 6 hours is a reasonable time to marathon hacking enough resource for a major upgrade. This might greatly reduce the instances of finding large loot but will also force players to upgrade miners and farms. Which will result in bigger resources in circulatiom.

We can then reduce it to 4 hours and make things more exciting. :D

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Re: Why people do this?

Post by Sibernetika » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:10 am

You do know that if that is the case there is no point in playing after the 6 hour period, and then even less reason than there is now to upgrade your mines since after 6 hours it's fair gamevon your resources whether you are playing or not.. Right now the 3 hour safety net doesn't reset if you were offline for a short time, but you are hackable during that 5 min you were offline.. As someone that works long hours during the week it works for people like me since we play during breaks and when we finally do get home to play we still have our 3 hours of safety.. But if I was to log on during the day my 6 hour duration counts down and by the time I get home with your suggested reset time my safety period will be over and I'm better off playing with my thumbs.. Which oddly enough will cause another problem for the free players, since the people that is actually really interested in the game but have to deal with that mechanic will be more inclined to buy credits, good for trickster but then the free players will start screaming pay to win
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Re: Why people do this?

Post by WarIock » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:29 am

If you read through the discussion again, you will find that nothing has changed for you. Just increased the safety net from 3 hours to 6 hours. It only counts the time you are online.
Sibernetika wrote:Right now the 3 hour safety net doesn't reset if you were offline for a short time, but you are hackable during that 5 min you were offline
From what people are saying, the current 3 hour counter does reset if you were offline for a time. This seems to be true from my experience. I believe this is the reason why the topic starter cannot retrace his attacker. Which started the discussion of an alternate protection system.

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We really need an admin or a dev to clarify some game mechanics.

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Re: Why people do this?

Post by Sibernetika » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:36 am

It resets after after 15 minutes or so.. Like I said short times like when like when you are waiting for your beams to compile does not reset it, so for that small period that you were offline your 3 hour period was still running.. Remind me how long was your guys reset period?
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Re: Why people do this?

Post by WarIock » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:55 am

Sibernetika wrote:Remind me how long was your guys reset period?
I believe it only needs 5 minutes starting from the time you log off.
I once tried to set my screen timer to 3 hours when 3 hours is up I log out then log in again after 5 minutes. Repeat. I did this for 9 hours with full storage. Nobody attacked me at that time. I know this is not a 100% proof but I think it is good enough based on what people say. You actually are the first one to say otherwise.

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Re: Why people do this?

Post by Sibernetika » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:00 am

It was 5 minutes until one day I got hacked for being online too long even though I used the 5min reset period.. So if you are keeping the 5min reset period for 6 hours protection then what will be the point if I can play for 4 hours, do a 5min reset and continue playing then.. Didn't that just make things worse?
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Re: Why people do this?

Post by WarIock » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:06 am

Sibernetika wrote:So if you are keeping the 5min reset period for 6 hours protection then what will be the point if I can play for 4 hours, do a 5min reset and continue playing then.. Didn't that just make things worse?
If you read through the disussion again, you will see that the suggested safety net will not reset when you go offline. It only resets on specific times.

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Re: Why people do this?

Post by Sibernetika » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:29 am

And 2 post ago you said nothing changed only from 3 hours to 6 hours.. Let me point out something the 3 hour protection doesn't care if you are online or not its gonna keep running down unless you were offline ling enough to reset it, now the 6 hour timer will run down whether you are online or not but it will take 12 hours to reset it, so by the time the people that works get home their 6 hours is up, so best find something else to do.. But you said it only counts for when you are online.. Okay lets do maths.. A brute force hack is 3 minutes plus another minute to cue more virus and another minute for finding and picking targets that was 5 minutes, then I went online for 5 minutes while I wait for the compile (now unless someone was mashing that retrace button waiting for me to go offline there isn't going to be a hack on me very quickly during those 5 minutes offline) by repeating this procedure oh long do you think I can stretch 6 hours to if it only counts when I'm online?
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