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Re: Black ice still shoots when shocked

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:20 am
by Crack69
Hmmm...
Welp we'll see what the dev team can find

Re: Black ice still shoots when shocked

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 3:35 pm
by Luminaar
Taiwei wrote:Not working? tell me.
Thanks. I'll have to forward the attack details, as the images provided provide the possibility of things looking just fine ;) It all depends on the previous time charged by the ICE.

Black ICE takes 3.5 seconds to charge and then fires a shot. Similarly, Blaster shots fire every 3.5 seconds and stun for 2 seconds. This means that between every Blaster shot, the Black ICE gets 1.5 seconds of charging.

Image 1 shows the Black ICE partially charged (since it's raising its "legs"), which could indicate 2+ seconds of charge already. The Blaster shot stuns it, but by the time the second shot lands, it has the 1.5 seconds of charge time mentioned above. This could result in it getting the 3.5 seconds needed, and thus fires a shot.

Re: Black ice still shoots when shocked

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 8:25 pm
by Taiwei
Luminaar wrote:
Taiwei wrote:Not working? tell me.
Thanks. I'll have to forward the attack details, as the images provided provide the possibility of things looking just fine ;) It all depends on the previous time charged by the ICE.

Black ICE takes 3.5 seconds to charge and then fires a shot. Similarly, Blaster shots fire every 3.5 seconds and stun for 2 seconds. This means that between every Blaster shot, the Black ICE gets 1.5 seconds of charging.

Image 1 shows the Black ICE partially charged (since it's raising its "legs"), which could indicate 2+ seconds of charge already. The Blaster shot stuns it, but by the time the second shot lands, it has the 1.5 seconds of charge time mentioned above. This could result in it getting the 3.5 seconds needed, and thus fires a shot.
But of it gets shocked then doesn't it reset the reload time?

Re: Black ice still shoots when shocked

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:00 pm
by Crack69
Taiwei wrote:
Luminaar wrote:
Taiwei wrote:Not working? tell me.
Thanks. I'll have to forward the attack details, as the images provided provide the possibility of things looking just fine ;) It all depends on the previous time charged by the ICE.

Black ICE takes 3.5 seconds to charge and then fires a shot. Similarly, Blaster shots fire every 3.5 seconds and stun for 2 seconds. This means that between every Blaster shot, the Black ICE gets 1.5 seconds of charging.

Image 1 shows the Black ICE partially charged (since it's raising its "legs"), which could indicate 2+ seconds of charge already. The Blaster shot stuns it, but by the time the second shot lands, it has the 1.5 seconds of charge time mentioned above. This could result in it getting the 3.5 seconds needed, and thus fires a shot.
But of it gets shocked then doesn't it reset the reload time?
Nope. Shot charge continues during stun time. Stun only prevents it from shooting. It will keep charging even while stun

Re: Black ice still shoots when shocked

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:43 pm
by Luminaar
Crack69 wrote:
Taiwei wrote:But of it gets shocked then doesn't it reset the reload time?
Nope. Shot charge continues during stun time. Stun only prevents it from shooting. It will keep charging even while stun
As Crack mentions, charge time is only suspended, not cancelled.

On closer inspection, everything does look as expected. By the time the Blaster hits, there's closer to 40 seconds on the clock.
0:40 s: The Blaster hits the ICE early in the charge. Charge time ~ 1.5 seconds. Stunned for 2 seconds.
0.38 s: Black ICE comes out of stun. Charges for 1.5 seconds > Charge time ~3 seconds. Gets stunned again for 2 seconds,
0.36 s: Black ICE comes out of stun. Charges for the remaining time and fires a shot.
Taiwei wrote:then the black ice fired without any animation
Because the charge time was so short, the charging animation was also cut short.

Re: Black ice still shoots when shocked

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:23 am
by Taiwei
Luminaar wrote:
Crack69 wrote:
Taiwei wrote:But of it gets shocked then doesn't it reset the reload time?
Nope. Shot charge continues during stun time. Stun only prevents it from shooting. It will keep charging even while stun
As Crack mentions, charge time is only suspended, not cancelled.

On closer inspection, everything does look as expected. By the time the Blaster hits, there's closer to 40 seconds on the clock.
0:40 s: The Blaster hits the ICE early in the charge. Charge time ~ 1.5 seconds. Stunned for 2 seconds.
0.38 s: Black ICE comes out of stun. Charges for 1.5 seconds > Charge time ~3 seconds. Gets stunned again for 2 seconds,
0.36 s: Black ICE comes out of stun. Charges for the remaining time and fires a shot.
Taiwei wrote:then the black ice fired without any animation
Because the charge time was so short, the charging animation was also cut short.
Good. That stops the shocker from being too op also there was no bug then.. thank you for the advice, and tips. And info

Re: Black ice shoots without reloading for full 3.5 sec.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:56 am
by Taiwei
I hope this topic name is clearer.